January 12, 2005
ロジックとエモーション
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今日話しをした人は、ロジカルな指向と精神論をアメとムチのように思っている人だった。
相手の意見に対して、論理の弱点を突かれると精神論、感情論で潰してしまうのだ。自分の都合で切り換えてしまうのだ。
確かに、ロジックで割り切れない話というのはある。
人を殺してはいけないとか、老人に親切にしなさいとか。
ただ、そういった人間の根幹的なことは世の中少ない。
特に仕事で話される内容ではほとんど無いだろう。
まして、人に説明しようとしてる場合には、ロジカルに説明しようと努力してるわけで、そこを精神論で潰されると、話をしている方は、暖簾に腕押しのような感じがしてしまう。
核心に近づいた部分で度々こういったことをされると、すっかり建設的な議論をする気を失ってしまう。
これが、会社内の権力を傘にきてると、更にタチが悪い。
積み上げたロジックの積み木が一気に崩れるように、相手に対する信頼も壊れて行く気がする。
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こんばんは。Ｕです。
ロジカルに行いたい対話でも相手次第では精神論をふっかけられる結果になることが多いとわたしゃも思います。
ただ、ロジカルだけでは動かない人もいることは確かともわたしゃは思います。
自分の都合はもっての他なのですが、特に新人などはロジカルより精神論的に「頑張れ！」で通じちゃったりします。でも建設的にはならないですよね…
「頑張れ」
「頑張れ」では…
■U様
確かに精神論が大事な場合もありますね。
私は、新人などに語られる一般的に精神論と言われてる部分でもある程度理由付けはしてあげられると思っています。
何故、それが必要なのかという手法論のコアな部分を説明して心に落とす手助けをしてあげないと、応用も利きませんし、自分で考えることを放棄してしまいます。
自分で考えることを放棄して盲目的に仕事をこなすようになってしまうと、建設的な組織では無くなってしまう気がするからです。
おはようございます。
えーと、前に書き込もうとしたらメールアドレス無しではじかれてしまい書き込みを断念してました。
ブログ用のメールアドレスを作ったので、今度は書き込みできるかしら。
最後までロジカルに話す人や、最初から精神論をふりかざす人は煙たがられる傾向があるかもしれませんね。
ロジカルに話すべき事と、精神論をぶつべき事は全く別物だと思っているので、その切り替えが上手くいかない話し合いは、ちょっと疲れます。
でも、そういう私もロジカルすぎて嫌な顔をされることが度々あったので、そのたびに反省しているのですが、癖ってなかなか抜けないです。
確かに
> 応用も利きませんし、自分で考えることを放棄してしまいます。
ですね。わたしゃも勿論新人くんや２年目くらいの子には
何をするにも「考えさせます」、「目的は何か」、「手段は何か」、「どうすれば良いのか」など。
なので、「頑張れ」ということはあまりありません。
というか、わたしゃの場合、少々親切かつ気を遣いすぎるという欠点があります…（笑）
ＫＺＯＯさんは一貫して、「建設的」を通しておられる。
凄く賛成です。だから土台をしっかりするためにＫＺＯＯさんのような新人教育ができるんですね。
参考になります。
あっ、ままよさんだ！（笑）
俺も身近に感じられるお話です。
精神論（気持ちの面）ももちろん仕事に大切だとは思いますが、それでは限界があるのです。
極端な話、太平洋戦争で日本は物量と技術力の差を、「名人芸」と言われるほどの練度と精神論で乗り切ろうとしましたが、それが通用したのは序盤だけだったという歴史が、それを物語っていると思います。
ふと、思いました。幼稚なことなのですが、
「できれば、精神の健康を維持しなさい」ってことにもなるのかも…
わたしゃは、精神が弱く、病なので、今は弱いですが、常日頃から意識して精神を強くしていければと思います♪
■ままよ様
コメントありがとうございます。
メルアドですか。。。
適当にそれっぽい奴組み立てて入力してもらえば抜けますよ(悪)
往々にして、ロジカルな思考が得意ではない人に対して、ロジカルに話すと煙たがられますよね。
そういった人は、そもそもの知識ベースや、イメージスペースが違うのでコミュニケーションに苦労します。
そういった場合は、これから、あまり頑張り過ぎないようにします（ｗ
■U様
私もこんな偉そうなこと言ってますが、色々教えてダメで期限ギリギリになった場合は、『頑張れ！』とか『何でもいいからやれ！』言ってしまいます（ｗ
Uさんのおっしゃるポイントは、私もすごく同意します。
作業を割り当てたときに、『何を』、『いつまで』、『誰が』を決めるようなものですよね。
■よっすぃ～様
うっ、太平洋戦争ネタ。。。個人的に盛り上がってしまいそうです（W
まず、太平洋戦争の時の日本は技術力的には、世界の最高レベルにはあったと思います。
また、生産技術についても名人芸レベルで作られる製品も世界のトップレベルだったでしょう。
それを踏まえて、物量に対して、技術/練度で対抗できるかということだと思います。
これは、おそらく全てに関して対抗できるとは思いませんが、物量の差が比較的小さい場合は、そこを補って余りあると思います。当然、圧倒的物量はひっくり返せませんが。。。
また、太平洋戦争当時の問題は、物量を精神量で補い且つ、人の命で置き換えようとしたことにあります。
ドンドンと名人芸が失われていき、更に苦しくなって行ったのでしょう。
おそらく、戦前/戦中で失われた日本の損失は、とても数値化できないものがあったような気がします。
やはり、組織というのは、人で成り立つということを強く認識し、その構成要素を大事にする。
また、組織の帰属する人も組織の構成員であることを認識し、組織を大切にすること。
こういったことから始まるような気がします。
>やはり、組織というのは、人で成り立つということを強く認識し、その構成要素を大事にする。
>また、組織の帰属する人も組織の構成員であることを認識し、組織を大切にすること。
>こういったことから始まるような気がします。
め…名文だ！
ウチの中間管理職連中に読ませてやりたいぐらい。
ウチでは実績の上がらない下は容赦なく切られます。それを管理できない管理職の責任は一切問われないのです。
「信賞必罰」これが徹底されていないと社員が会社を信頼しなくなりますよね。
あ、俺も太平洋戦争は結構好きな話題です。
■よっすぃー様
会社とかはピラミッド型の組織形態で、雛形って軍隊なんじゃないかな？なんて時々考えます。
軍隊とかは上の命令は絶対で、ある意味マインドコントロールが行き届いている閉鎖的な組織なので成り立つんでだと思います。
当然、信賞必罰ですし。
同じやり方を会社に持ち込んでも組織が死んでしまうのではないでしょうか？
特に、創造的な仕事をしようとするチームでその仕組みを取り込んでしまうとチームの力を１００％引き出せずに終わってしまう気がします。
チームと会社組織とは組織運営として線を引く必要があるんじゃないですかね？
会社経営はやったことがないので、偉そうなことは言えませんけど。。。
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